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03 Feb

Live From Dallas Today 1-4pm!

published in category: Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday, February 3rd, 2011 – 8:01 am

Perhaps Tom Landry is at work years after his firing, cursing Jerry's first Super Bowl hosting: a game that not only features the hated Black and Gold and Green and gold but also is complete with a miserable lead-up weather week that makes the NY game in 2014 seem enticing. At least NY could deal with this stuff…

But, the most important thing upon arriving in Big D is that we have found Steeler Nation… join 2-time Super Bowl champ Deshea Townsend and I at Malarkey's Tavern Thursday, Friday, and Saturday at the biggest Steelers Bar in Dallas. We'll be up at you from 1-4 ET today here on TribLive.com

Posted in Pittsburgh Steelers

 

02 Feb

Art Rooney II Talks

published in category: Pittsburgh Steelers on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011 – 3:21 pm

Steelers President Art Rooney II met the media in Dallas and tackled a number of questions:

(on what he expects to be different about the NFL in five years) "It's hard to predict, but certainly I'm sure that the television world will be different as things change and how people view the games. Whether it will be having games broadcast over the Internet and on your cell phones, all that kind of thing, that's the change that's coming. So that will be the interesting part to see. I think the game itself, hopefully, is not going to be too much different. We're always tweaking the rules here and there, and safety is certainly an ongoing issue, but I think for the most part we have a great game and I hope it's not going to be drastically different than it is today."

(on whether he expects there to be a team in Los Angeles by 2016) "Yeah, I do. I think Los Angeles is in the picture by then. It's a great football town. They've supported a few franchises over the years, and hopefully we'll get another one back there by at least 2016."

(on whether he thinks there will be an international franchise within the next five years) "I don't see one in the next five years, let's say. I would think if there's going to be an international franchise, it's either going to be Mexico or Canada. That's the next step, I would guess."

(on whether an international franchise is possible by 2016) "Yeah, I think it's possible. I mean, the Bills are already playing some games up in Toronto, so it could be possible."

(on whether a game in Ireland could be a realistic possibility next year) "I don't know. I've heard that there's talk about that, but I don't know. I think it's probably a long shot."

(on whether the Steelers would be interested in playing a game in Ireland) "Sure. We'd love to. Absolutely. You know, we played a preseason game there back in '95, I think it was, so it would be fun."

(on Saturday's scheduled negotiating meeting between the NFL and the NFL Players Association) "You have to have meetings to get something done. We have a way to go, but at least I think if you get on some kind of a meeting schedule, that's the first step."

(on whether he sees the tone of the negotiations heading in a positive direction) "It's hard to say. I think we've just got to get everybody at the table and get serious about it. Where there's a will, there's a way. It's hard for me to say the tone means anything one way or the other at this point. It's just the fact of getting to the table and getting serious about getting something done."

(on the key to creating sustainable success in a franchise) "I think the key, really, is surrounding yourself with the right people. You have to have the right people to get the job done, and we've been fortunate over the years to have a lot of great players and great coaches and people like Kevin Colbert handling the draft. It's a lot of pieces that make it work, but certainly having the right people in the right spots is the key."

(on Pittsburgh's pro sports teams winning 11 championships in 40 years) "It is amazing. We're lucky."

(on if he has any concerns of economic imbalance amongst the League when he sees Cowboys Stadium) "I think there is that concern in the League. I think we've always had a strong revenue sharing system in the League and I think we need to keep that. It's great that somebody can get a building like this done but still, you're right, we have to make sure we keep the economics the right way and in a way that we can have a league that has been as successful as it has been."

(on why they have been able to resist the urge to make big moves) "Panic doesn't seem to work. Let's put it that way. There are enough people that seem to have gone through that mode and our feeling is that you pick good people and you try to stick with them if you have good people. There are ups and downs in any sport, but if you have the right people in place, you'll always have a chance to be successful and that's what we do. Every year, we have a single goal, and that's to try and put a championship team on the field and everybody in the organization understands that is the goal. We don't try and make it too complicated."

(on if their culture is articulated through the organization or simply understood through the years) "I think the idea of having the right people in place and finding and keeping good people, that's something that goes back to my grandfather and my father. As they said, keeping it simple and keeping the right people in play, that's the key."

(on where the financial discipline of building through the draft come from) "I think it goes back to the late '60s. My dad and my uncle, Art, started to become the guys running the franchise. When we hired Chuck Noll, I think they all believed that building through the draft was the right way to do it. That was kind of the point where the formula of having the draft be the foundation — everybody agreed that was the way to make it work."

(on why there is only one decal on the helmet) "There are a lot of stories. The first story is that our equipment manager at the time didn't feel like putting it on both sides, a guy named Jack Clark. Really, I think it came down to my dad wanting to do something different. He decided that just one on one side was something that was going to be a little different from what all the other teams were doing at the time."

(on if there is a story to why they picked the side of the helmet that they did) "No, I never heard any rationale to which side was picked."

(on whether it bothers him to be the underdog despite having a better record than Green Bay) "We've always done pretty well as the underdog. That doesn't bother me in the least."

(on why more teams haven't emulated the Steelers' culture) "Well, I can't speak for other teams. We've always had good relationships with our players and wanted to have an atmosphere where everybody felt like they were a part of the organization and don't try to build too many walls or divisions between different groups in your organization."

(on how he defines 'the Steeler Way') "I think it's just a matter of trying to get the right people in place. They key to it is we've always believed in having good people, and first of all, having the right coach leading the way. I don't think there's anything complicated to it. It's just a matter of trying to find the right people and we've been lucky to be able to find them."

(on the Steelers not having to fire a head coach since 1969) "We've been fortunate. There's no question about it. We've been able to find three guys to lead the franchise that have all been great guys. They've all had a little different strengths, but they've been the kind of people you want to have leading your franchise. So we've been very fortunate that it's worked out that way."

(on the Steelers still being a family-owned franchise) "Well, every franchise is a little bit different. We've gone through some changes in the last few years, so we now have, certainly nothing like the Packers, but we have a great ownership group. We've been very fortunate to be able to attract the kind of people to be our partners that wanted to be part of it. But the Packers are unique; it's hard to compare with them the way they've done it. It's an interesting organization."

(on Dan Rooney walking to Steelers home games from his house) "Well, it worked out that way. Obviously, some of it was a little bit fortunate that the stadium wound up being put on the north side back when Three Rivers (Stadium) was built. Now, Heinz Field is even closer to the house than Three Rivers was, so it worked out great."

(on what this season was like for Dan Rooney) "Well, I'm sure it was a little tiring, because he flew back and forth from Ireland to America a number of times this year, so I'm glad the season is coming to an end for that reason. He can maybe quit traveling so much and get some rest."

(on how many games Dan Rooney attended this season) "He was at all the playoff games and I think he was back for seven or eight of the regular season games."

(on whether Dan Rooney missed football this season) "There's no doubt that he misses it, but he also loves the job that he has over there. He loves Ireland; he loves the job he's doing over there, so he's living the life. He has no complaints."

Posted in Pittsburgh Steelers

 

02 Feb

If Pouncey

published in category: Pittsburgh Steelers on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011 – 9:21 am

Watching Steelers rookie phenom Maurkice Pouncey hobble down the steps of the team's charter plane upon arrival in Dallas Monday, using a walker to aid him, was just plain unsettling.

Kind of reminded me of watching Dick Clark on New Year's Rockin' Eve of late. You can't help but cringe at the memories of what used to be and at the ghastly reality of it all: nothing lasts forever.

Pouncey's rookie run of health and superior play appears to have ended right at the NFL finish line, just as Dick's frontman days of watching the ball drop are headed the ways of a wax museum.

Now, here's hoping Steelers' backup center Doug Legursky is a step up from Ryan Seacrest as a fill-in. Certainly, the Big Legursky is a step up on the man scale, and this ain't American Idol that "Bronco" is prepping for.

This is Steelers football. Traditionally, ground and pound and defensive takedowns. Where girls are girls and men are men, like a perfect All In the Family Carroll O'Connor sitcom open.

And a guy nicknamed Bronco, after the 1930's legendary fullback, should at least be able to fulfill that mantra. I don't know about you, but I'll skip seeing Legursky calling out blitz protections and trying to pass block behemoth B.J. Raji (can't they make bigger pants for a big man than that?). I want to see Bronco mauling someone on Super Sunday.

Isn't this the season where the team President set the tone a year ago, demanding (ok, strongly suggesting) the Black and Yellow run the ball in 2010? "Hit the pedal once, and make the floor shake," was Art Rooney II's basic idea. So Wiz Khalifa may have actually put it in words for him, but you get the point.

Rashard Mendenhall and Legursky ran it against Rex Ryan's D in the AFC Championship game to the pretty tune of 121-yards. Now, with only the18th best run defense in football in Green Bay standing between Number 7, isn't it obvious what the game plan calls for?

If playcaller Bruce Arians and QB Ben Roethlisberger forget what got them here now, it'll be a crying shame. Balance. Forget 37-36 final scores and 503 passing yards. Different year, different circumstances. Run the football to win in Dallas.

This Packers defense allowed 10 runs of 20-yards or longer this season. Adrian Peterson ran for 131 against them. Michael Turner got them for 110. Matt Forte had 91. Jhavid Best and Brandon Jacobs had a greater than 4.0 per carry average against the Pack D. 10 teams ran for 100 or more in a game this year as a collective.

Allowing a Dom Capers blitz scheme to tee off against Jonathan Scott and Legursky while attempting pass protection can only end with one result, no matter how elusive Ben can be.

Here at the end, remember Art's suggestion from the beginning: run it better than they can stop it.

Posted in Pittsburgh Steelers

 

02 Feb

Pack Snacks

published in category: Ike Taylor, Pittsburgh Pirates, Pittsburgh Steelers on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011 – 9:20 am

Media Day jumped the shark years ago in terms of producing actually interesting quotes. But, here were a few that stood out to me from Packers guys after way too much time spent listening and reading to the 2011 version:

PACKERS TE ANDREW QUARLESS
(on the game plan for Sunday) "There are a couple of things we can take advantage of in their secondary. It starts with that front seven and they have a great front seven. If [QB] Aaron Rodgers has that time, he can pick them apart."

PACKERS CB SAM SHIELDS
(on covering Mike Wallace step-by-step) "I'm a fast guy and he's a fast guy. It's going to be a big challenge and I can't wait."

PACKERS LT CHAD CLIFTON
(on Pittsburgh Steelers LB James Harrison) "I will be blocking Harrison for the majority of the game. My film study has been on him for the most part. He is a phenomenal player. He is like a pit bull out there. You have to really admire the way he plays the game and the passion he plays with. He is going to give it 100 percent on every play."

PACKERS RECEIVER JORDY NELSON
(On the Packers' receiving corps) "We're just all different. I think Greg (Jennings) is extremely underrated for what he can do. He can run any route in the book. (Donald) Driver in the slot, he's done it for years. He's very knowledgeable about what the quarterback wants from hot reads. With James (Jones) and myself, we just come in where we're needed. I think with the four, we're able to rotate in and out, we can do anything that needs to get done."

PACKERS RECEIVER DONALD DRIVER
(On how does he prepare for a guy like Ike Taylor) "I think Ike is a good corner. I've seen him play and I've played against him over my career. He's one of those guys that'll come down and try to put his hands on you. He feels like if he can get his hands on you he's going to stop you. But we love to bump and run, we love the man-to-man coverage. One thing that we always say is that we don't run away from anyone. I think that Ike is a great player I don't take anything for granted but you still got to go out there and play the game and we know that it's going to be a great matchup between all of us. They've got great corners, we've got great receivers. So we've got to all play."

PACKERS DE RYAN PICKETT
(on game in the trenches in reference to Steelers running attack) "We love it. They are going to challenge us by running the ball and we welcome that. We feel that it plays in our favor. We love the challenge. It's exciting. It's Super Bowl football. If they want to run the ball, we feel that we are a physical team as well."

(on the possibility of Pouncey not playing in the Super Bowl) "I don't know if it's an advantage. We watched tape on the other guy. He is a strapping fellow. He gets in there and goes hard through the whistle. Honestly, we haven't even talked about if Pouncey is going to play. B.J. is going to be the one facing the center most of the plays. I don't think he cares whether it's Pouncey or the other one. We don't put much thought into it."

(on matching up with Flozell) "I'm mostly going to be on Flozell and he is a big guy. It's not the first time. I faced him last year so I've got a couple of plays on him. Last year he was hurt when we played Dallas. So, I haven't played Flozell as a defensive end, but I have played against him throughout my career. His size, his arm length, his experience, he is just a good all around tackle. He can play, so it will be a challenge for me."

PACKERS HEAD COACH MIKE MCCARTHY
(on whether he remembers all of the Steelers' Super Bowl wins) "I remember all of the Super Bowls. Growing up in Pittsburgh it seemed like it was a little bit of an old hat. You had the four Super Bowls and the two Pirates. The Pirates won the World Series in '71 and '79. The University of Pittsburgh won the National Championship in '76. The biggest thing I remember about the first Super Bowl was the city's reaction to it. It had been 40 years and Mr. Rooney — what he meant to the city and for the city to have that success. I was a Steelers fan and Jack Lambert was my favorite player."

(on Dom Capers being detailed oriented) "It goes back to the first meeting I had with Dom. I picked Dom up at the airport and it was 25-30 below zero. We were coming out of baggage claim and he had a suitcase like all of the other candidates, but he also had a humongous bag of books. We loaded it into the back of my vehicle and we went on and had dinner. The next day we set down for the interview and he had his original notes from when he installed the defense in Pittsburgh in the early 90's. He's old school in that way where he still likes to write everything out. In the age of computers he still has a procedure that he likes to write everything out. He uses more highlighters than anybody. I thought I used a lot of highlighters, but it doesn't even compare to Dom. Dom's technique and the preparation he puts into preparing his sheets is very impressive. He's good. He is truly the most detailed individual I have ever been around. You may be as detailed as Dom, but I have never seen anybody with more detail in their presentation on a daily basis."

PACKERS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR JOE PHILBIN
(on Packers offense in postseason) "We had that one game in Atlanta where we were lights out for awhile. The other two games, from an offensive standpoint have been pretty similar to how we've played for the vast majority of the season. Down in Atlanta, we were opportunistic and we had that one stretch where we scored on five straight possessions, and that doesn't happen often in the NFL. We followed up the Atlanta game with a very good first half against Chicago. We think a lot of their defense. I think we had 17 first downs and 250 yards of offense in the first half, but obviously they made some good adjustments in the second half and we didn't make as many good plays in the second half. It is safe to say we are going to have to put a 60-minute game together against the Steelers."

(on whether the Packers offense plays better on turf) "I haven't really thought about it. I've seen some of those numbers that have been thrown up there. I half-kiddingly would say that if we protect our quarterback, if our receivers run good routes, if we have some balance in our attack, we'll probably have good success. I don't know that it is necessarily dome- or turf related. The worst game we've probably played in my four years as coordinator was in Detroit."

(on whether you can beat the Steelers just by passing) "I think our philosophy offensively has never been that since the average NFL game has 65 plays, we need to have 33 runs and 32 passes. I think a team would play into the hands of the opposition if you throw every down. Your quarterback will be in one spot and you would be asking your offensive linemen to block all day against every blitz and every defensive line game. I don't know that you can do that. We use some one-back and multiple receiver formations every week."

PACKERS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR DOM CAPERS
(on facing Pittsburgh Defensive Coordinator Dick LeBeau) "Well, Dick and I are very good friends. When we first went to Pittsburgh, we roomed together initially. We're both from the same part of the country, both small-town Ohio guys. I have a great amount of admiration for Dick. When you think about what he's done, I don't think anybody else has done it, in terms of being a player who was just inducted into the Hall of Fame and now a coach. This guy has done it for over 50 years, and he's done it on a high level, so there's nothing but respect from me for Dick."

Posted in Ike Taylor, Pittsburgh Pirates, Pittsburgh Steelers

 

31 Jan

The Great One

published in category: Pittsburgh Penguins on Monday, January 31st, 2011 – 12:22 pm

With all of the Super Bowl XLV hype that we're all going to get swamped with over the next two weeks, and everything that means for Pittsburgh sports fans, it's easy to forget what's going on with the Penguins: Sidney Crosby's concussion symptoms persist, Evgeni Malkin's still out, and the team is doing everything it can to find offense in other places while riding their stud goalie through an interminably rough patch. With the NHL All-Star Game days away and the league debating headshots and their effects, who better to have on to talk about everything going on in the world of hockey than the guy who holds just about every record in the book: The Great One, Wayne Gretzky.

Will I tell him how I was taught to hate him as a little kid because he wasn't Mario Lemieux? Maybe. Will he tell me & Rick Tocchet what he really thinks about Crosby, concussions, hockey in nontraditional markets, and the state of the game as a whole on the eve of his 50th birthday?

Posted in Pittsburgh Penguins

 

31 Jan

A Recent Ken Laird Q&A on the Steelers and Pittsburgh Sports

published in category: College Sports, Pittsburgh Steelers, Sports Talk Radio on Monday, January 31st, 2011 – 11:45 am

Interview by Ron Lippock of the Pgh Sports Daily Bulletin

Where can fans find you on the air and online?

We just launched SportsTalk on TribLive Radio last week, and you can find me co-hosting with former Steeler Deshea Townsend and former Pitt hooper Julius Page (in addition to an excellent array of Trib writers) M-F from 1-5pm online at TribLive.com. At present radio waves are free of the burden of carrying my nasal voice around the Burgh.

What would surprise fans most about this Steelers team?

I imagine that most of them are actually real, ordinary human beings. When I first entered the Steelers locker room in '05 I'll admit my eyes were wide as silver dollars having grown up in Pittsburgh and having followed for years as a fan. To me at the time, these guys were larger than life. When you get to know them a little more personally, you find they have the same issues we all do and are just trying to make a living. This team in particular has quite the family, down-to-earth vibe now that some of the stranger egos have checked their way out of town (i.e. Santonio, Reed, and the old Ben who used to have a mullet).

Who have been the most interesting players you've encountered over the years — and what made them so?

Joey Porter has to be in the top three. Joey was a guest on our show last week and even in something as simple as describing Polamalu called Troy "one of them dogs, he don't say nothing but he definitely bites. He's not a barker, but you not going to go over there and try and pet him." Porter was a sound byte machine, a true entertainer. James Harrison is another one I'd put in the interesting category. From turning down White House visits to threatening retirement over league fines, this guy is captivating. I once did an interview with James that lasted about five minutes, at which point he gave me a look that said 'if you ask me one more question regarding how I feel about something I'm going to shove that microphone somewhere unpleasant."

We heard Tomlin speak out recently about media members revealing "in house" information. How do you draw the line between what you report on and what you decide not to report on?

It's really not so difficult. The local media is allowed to watch Steelers practice, but not allowed to report anything seen there. In that sense, anything you view never really happened. As a reporter, it's all about what you can get players to tell you or what you can get sources and contacts to provide. And because of that, the best reporters are the ones who have been on the beats the longest, are around all the time, and have earned the trust of people in the organization.

What have been some of your most interesting experiences covering the Steelers and why?

Well I'd say my reporting the imminent firing of offensive coordinator Bruce Arians last January would have to be up there. The report was accurate (and re-confirmed to me from several places since), but of course things change quickly in this business and the front office was swayed to keep Arians around. (Turned out to be a great call, by the way, as Arians' continuity has been huge for the offense in 2010.) I certainly took my share of criticism, some really personal attacks from fans and a few media members. But I definitely learned a lot through it all, and let me tell you in times like those you find out who your friends are.

Getting to the Super Bowl — What weaknesses and matchups do you think the Steelers will try to exploit versus Green Bay?

It's awful tough to find a weakness with Green Bay right now. If their starting LT Chad Clifton is still bothered by his neck injury, or if his backup in second year man T.J. Ward has to play, that's certainly a matchup James Harrison can exploit. And although the Packers rookie RT Bryan Bulaga is a first-round pick and has played well, LaMarr Woodley should be a factor in this game. The Steelers need to hammer Aaron Rodgers (as legally as possible) and hope the Packers QB has a Favre-ian interception or two in him here in his first taste of the Super Bowl. And on offense, the Steelers had better be able to run it some.

Conversely, what weaknesses and matchups do you think Green Bay will try to exploit versus Pittsburgh?

With center Maurkice Pouncey out, you know Green Bay defensive coordinator Dom Capers is sending the fire zone blitz up the middle early and often to test fill-in Doug Legursky. And Clay Matthews vs. Jonathan Scott should scare every Steelers fan.

We know the defensive players revere LeBeau — how do the offensive players view Arians?
Let's face it, only one offensive player's opinion really matters here. And Ben loves him.

Is Legursky up to the challenge at center with Pouncey out?

I've always been impressed by "Bronco," even back to his year on the practice squad in '08. He's as tough as they come, mentally and physically. He'll play hard and with a chip on his shoulder. All that said, Packers NT B.J. Raji is going to give him major problems. Pouncey's loss will cost the Steelers 10 points in this game, and the defense now has pick up the slack.

It's early, but still, what are the main priorities for this team in the offseason?

Hopefully, to take Lombardi down to the river and party all summer (next to another Stanley).

Pittsburgh has a new team — the Pittsburgh Power. What do they have to do to win over Pittsburgh fans?

Cheap tickets, cheap beer, and a hot dance team.

Any other thoughts/comments for Pittsburgh Sports Daily Bulletin readers?

"A flute with no holes is not a flute, and a doughnut with no hole is a danish." — The Zen philosopher Basho

Posted in College Sports, Pittsburgh Steelers, Sports Talk Radio

 

28 Jan

Mack and Tocchet

published in category: Pittsburgh Penguins on Friday, January 28th, 2011 – 12:55 pm

– JAGOFF OF THE WEEK: Roger Goodell? Maurice Jones-Drew? The Guy Who Wrote the Column Making Fun of the Terrible Towel? Someone else? Email cmack@tribweb.com or call 412-320-7925 with your vote or nomination.

– ESPN Injury Expert Stephania Bell at 10:

Posted in Pittsburgh Penguins

 

27 Jan

JagOff of the Week is Back!!

published in category: Pittsburgh Penguins, Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday, January 27th, 2011 – 2:49 pm

<p>One of the most popular features at 1250 ESPN was always <em>JagOff of the Week</em>, or <em><span style="color: #000000">&amp;@%?#$</span> of the Week</em>, as some ridiculous suits in Bristol, CT decided to change the name to at one point. At it&#8217;s essence, it is what talk radio is all about: Bitching.</p>

<p>Every Friday from here on out, we&#8217;ll take up the cause and give you a chance to tell us who the biggest jagoff of the past seven days has been. <a href="mailto:cmack@tribweb.com">E-mail</a> your choice, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/THEChrisMack">tweet it</a> (with the tag #JagOffOfTheWeek) or just call 412-320-7925. We&#8217;ll count everything up, debate the hanging chads, make pop culture references from 10 years ago, and declaring a winner at the end of the show.</p>
<p><em>JagOff of the Week</em> starts today. Listen <a href="http://bit.ly/TribLiveRadioPlayer">here</a> on your PC, or <a href="http://bit.ly/TribLiveRadioMobile">here</a> on your smartphone.</p>

<p>I usually wouldn&#8217;t do this, but here are some suggestions just to get you rollin&#8217; this week&#8230; <strong><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=yhoo-ept_sports_nfl_experts-310130">Bob Holtzman</a></strong> of ESPN (for giving away on national TV that the Steelers had a trick play planned for the Ravens), <strong><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/david-shoalts/angry-crosby-likely-to-skip-all-star-game/article1873903/">David Shoalts</a></strong> of the <em>Toronto Globe &amp; Mail </em>(for suggesting &#8220;sources&#8221; inside the Penguins told him Sidney Crosby would protest the NHL&#8217;s policy on head shots by skipping the All-Star Game, when in fact Shoalts completely made it up), <strong>Steven Tyler </strong>of Aerosmith (for crushing whatever little rock credibility he had left by joining the cast of &#8220;American Idol&#8221;), <strong>Rex Ryan </strong>(for&#8230; well, hell.. why not??), <strong><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tom-Jackson-insists-he-picked-Pats-because-it-d-?urn=nfl-309643">Tom Jackson</a> </strong>of ESPN (for suggesting he picked the Patriots to beat the Jets only in an effort to motivate the Jets)&#8230; <a href="mailto:cmack@tribweb.com">Vote now</a>, and don&#8217;t be afraid to nominate someone else!</p>

Posted in Pittsburgh Penguins, Pittsburgh Steelers

 



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